New floor up to new cabinets already installed or under? New construction home


I would prefer to have the floor go under the cabinets but the cabinets have to be in along with an linoleum floor to close on the house... Also, can I lay the hardwood floor directly over the linoleum? By close on the house, I am assuming that you mean satisfy a purchasing contract. You can lay hardwood directly on top of linoleum. But if you're thinking about laying linoleum down on say half of the floor, then try not to use hardwood (or other flooring) to cover the edge (to create like a 3/4" step). You would want the edges of the two floorings to meet and use a trasition strip between the two floor edges. I'm not really sure what you are getting at, but to be sure, hardwood floors aren't ideal for kitchens. Ideally you would want the top of the linoleum to be flush with the hardwood, which probably will mean adding underlayment (like birch plywood) before linoeum.

I don't want... trim all around the baseboard of the cabinets. I was considering pulling out the...

0 0

Cabinets shouldn't go on top of a floating floor -- it can't float that way.

Install the cabinets, but don't put the toe kick on yet (you may have to remove it - gently - before you install them). The floating floor will require an expansion gap all around, so plan on installing a base trim on the sides of the cabinets too. The toe kick should cover the gap, but if it's too thin, just install the same base all around, using something that is at least 3" tall so you don't have a dirt collector under the toe kicks of your cabinets.

I am installing a thicker hardwood in my own house, so I cut pieces of plywood the same size as the cabinet foot print so I wouldn't lose the toe space. You never realize how important that is until you scuff the top of your best shoes just before leaving for that important appointment. I agree with Fred's caution about dishwasher clearance too. Be sure there's enough room (and yes, it's okay to put flooring under it and the refer and...

0 0

Fully renovating your kitchen will update the space, add value to your home and appeal to potential buyers. It’s a big undertaking, so you want to follow all the right steps to ensure the final results match your original design vision. In the pursuit to create the ideal kitchen, you may be wondering whether to install your new cabinets or floors first. Here’s a look at the pros and cons of either order:

Floors first

Many people like to put in flooring first to avoid having to cut the material around cabinets and appliances. This is the main draw for those who start with floors. What’s more, some worry that by installing cabinets first, it will be harder to switch them out in the future, as you’ll be stuck with the same cabinet footprint you had before. However, if you’re remodeling the kitchen, you’re likely doing so in a style you won’t want to change later. Finally, putting flooring down beneath base cabinets offers a clean look and saves you...

0 0

Floor before cabinets or cabinets before floor? Like turning a prism to the light, the answer to this question changes when the factors are different. Consider this familiar scenario:

You are doing a full-scale, rip-down remodel of your kitchen where everything comes out and gets replaced: walls, cabinets, flooring, appliances. After the demo, it is time to put in new flooring and cabinets. But which one should be installed first: cabinets or flooring?

Bottom Line

In most cases, given standard flooring heights, you can install the cabinets before the floor covering. Floor covering, or finish flooring, is the surface that you see and walk on, not the sub-floor and not an underlayment.

Floor covering will be cut to size and almost butted against the cabinets. A minimal gap should be left between the flooring and the cabinets. This gap will be covered by baseboard or shoe molding that is nailed to the bottom of the base cabinets.

Alan Ryner,...

0 0
0 0

Which floor did you end up choosing? I remember you were trying to decide ...

We will be getting engineered hardwood (BR-111 Triangulo Amendoim), which should be installed next week. My contractor will be putting plywood under the dishwasher to the same height as the engineered floor, so the DW can be pulled out as others have mentioned. We checked to see that there would be enough room, and at least in my case, there was. I don't think engineered wood is usually quite as thick as solid wood can be.

So I were you, I would measure first to be sure it would fit. Then I would have him remove and reinstall the DW over plywood. I don't know anything about installing DWs, but I don't understand how reinstalling the DW would cause a leak.

Good luck! I'm interested to hear how it goes...

0 0

Kitchen cabinet options may seem endless. While you know that the material, finish, and design style of your kitchen cabinets will determine the overall look of your kitchen, it is also important to keep in mind that how your cabinets are made will determine the timeline of your kitchen remodeling project. There are three main types of cabinets available: stock, semicustom, and custom. The cabinets that you might choose to browse in order to gather design inspiration at a local home improvement center or cabinet discounter are either stock or semicustom kitchen cabinets. If the price tag for new cabinets is more than you expect or if you just want to update the look of your cabinets with new cabinet fronts, kitchen cabinet refacing may be the best option for you.

Stock Cabinets
Stock cabinets are preassembled or ready-to-assemble cabinets that are available at most home centers and cabinet discount stores. Manufacturers and dealers keep a selection of stock cabinets in...

0 0

Mark Rutte leaves the negotiating room after the coalition deal is finalised. Photo: Wiebe Kiestra / HH

The motto of the new Dutch cabinet, which is set to formally present its plans to parliament and the public on Tuesday, is to be vertrouwen in de toekomst or ‘trust in the future’, Dutch media said on Monday.

The new alliance, the third to be headed by prime minister Mark Rutte, has been 208 days in the making.

On Monday, the four parliamentary parties involved in the coalition – the VVD, D66, CDA and ChristenUnie – were given copies of the plans for their approval.

It is a ‘solid agreement,’ D66 leader Alexander Pechtold said. ‘I am proud that this has been possible and that it is a balanced and sustainable accord.’

‘Everyone had to make sacrifices but it has a lot of good points,’ said ChristenUnie leader Gert-Jan Segers. VVD leader and PM Mark Rutte said he is ‘extremely happy’ to have something on the table.

RTL political...

0 0

Building your new home is exciting, especially when you understand how the process works.

Chip Perschino, senior vice president of construction at Edward Andrews Homes, says it's understandable that buyers are excited to see their new home, from start to finish.

“Our homeowners enjoy watching the home come together, from pouring the foundation to framing and watching the home take shape,” he says. “Once the home has drywall, they start to visualize themselves living in the space and how they’ll use it – imagining what furniture goes where and how they’ll entertain friends and family there.

“They spend a good bit of time designing the home to be unique to their family needs and tastes so seeing it all come together is rewarding for them,” says Perschino.

To help you prepare for and understand your new home’s construction, this article outlines the typical steps your builder will take in the construction of a home and will help keep you abreast...

0 0

The contractor installed the cabinets correctly IF the counter for the base cabinets is the standard 36 inches from the floor and the upper cabinets are 18 inches of the counter. As has been mentioned this is code in some places, but not others. The bottom line here is that your upper cabinets should be about 54 inches to the first shelf, which should allow an adult access to the first couple of shelves. If your 5'4 (64 inches) then you should be able to SEE into the bottom cabinet and easily reach it and the second shelf, if not the third. There are some reasons that cabinets are at this height. First, its for safety reasons, the upper cabinets are not intended to be low enough that young children can reach them. Second, the 18 inches above the counter gives adequate space for most kitchen appliances to set on the counter without coming into contact with the bottom of the wall cabinets. I get that you plan to be there the rest of your life, but in all fairness,...

0 0

Although people who opt to build their home instead of buy one already on the market work closely with an experienced builder, contractors, and designers, sometimes some details get overlooked. It’s not until long after they’ve already moved in that they realize they should have made themselves part of the discussion when it came to certain things, including places to access electrical power in the home. To avoid having to use extension cords and power bars, take the time to think through where you’d like to be able to easily access electricity in your new home. Here are some places to consider:


The National Electric Code, as modified by local government, prescribes the minimum number and general location of electrical outlets in your new home. That doesn’t mean you can’t add as many plugs as your electric service box will allow. The kitchen, home to small and large electric appliances, is a good place to start the process. Plan outlets on all sides of your...

0 0

Can cabinets be installed directly on a floating floor, or should the flooring be cut away? August 29, 2005

I have had a couple of installs recently, and the floating laminate floor has been lifted for cab installation. The reason was that the floor couldn’t float if cabs were on it. Now I know what the flooring manufacturer will say, but my question is has anybody actually experienced a problem by putting cabinets on top of a laminate floor?

While one customer was explaining to me the amount of trouble it was to pull the floor (because the cabinet supplier insisted) .I asked what about the 30 foot oak entertainment unit on the other side of the room and apparently that wasn’t a problem. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Forum Responses
(Cabinet and Millwork Installation Forum)
From contributor R:
Why didn't they just cut the floor around the toe kick footprint for the new cabs? The cabinet supplier could easily have sent...

0 0

Hi, Our cabinet problem is inherited from the previous owners. The floor of the cabinet has rotted away (cabinet under the sink), I assume from a leak. While we're pretty handy, cabinet repair is unknown territory to us. We're a bit stumped how to remove/install a new floor. Any pointers would be much appreciated. See attached pic. thanks!

or, how I became a "no sink base cabinet" guy


Go to a home center and see how one is made.

You can cut out the bottom shelf easily enough (do that).

This will expose the side walls of the cabinet and how much rot is there.

The fix will probably be in "sistering" some new wood to the sides...
attaching that as high as you need to go to find dry good wood.

If inclined you can then replace the shelf...
and attach a toe kick to that.



Here is the pic

Attached Thumbnails ...
0 0

I have pergo installed in a kitchen and recently was notified by my tenants there are small bubbles of water coming up between pergo planks. The property is located in Tucson, AZ. This is a very dry climate, except in the summer during Monsoon season, which even then the humidity might hit 60% on a very rainy day.

The localized area is right in front of the sink cabinet. The pergo planks are now starting to slightly buckle. I contacted my home owners insurance company and they sent out an Adjustor. He was unable to determine where the water was coming from. He then contacted a water leak detection contractor. The water detection contractor found the swamp cooler on the roof could be the cause of water slowing accumulating under the pergo. He stated the overflow valve for the unit needed to be adjusted and the timed overflow spilling of water that drains thru pvc pipe was entering thru the roof near the sewer vent pipe. Upon inspection of roof vent pipe, this roof area is...

0 0

Gallery of Refinish work and Installations

Buff and Coat - The Beautiful Secret!

So what do you say to yourself if want to bring your floors appearance back to life and the floor is in good structural condition and your happy with the color? Would you say..."Ill just have them refinished."? Well...what if there was a more affordable and faster way to bring the floor back to life? There is....its called a Buff and Coat (Screening) and although most floors are candidates....most flooring professionals keep it a secret. Well we have never been good at keeping secrets. The floor on the left was just worn and tired. All it needed was a little TLC....some light abrasion...cleaned up and a new coat of Polyurethane applied and as you can see in the picture...this floor was "Reborn"

"Do you guys do Tile"?

The Ugly Duckling

Go on...Guess what this is...Go on

Stair Pie in the Eye

We only installed the wood for the 3 Pie...

0 0